Prepaid cellphone, cash-only account, in a false name... Check.
Unlicenced, unregistered, contract-free rental arrangement and do not recieve mail at this address.... Check.
Driver's license, vehicle registrations, and tax info all going to a P.O. box in a remote town I only visit a couple times a year.... Check.
I'm curious about how to dissappear. How about handling money transactions that must be non-cash? internet purchases and the like? Remember, I prefer not to have a bank account in my name, and a bank account NOT in my name would be fraudulent in ways that can get a person in trouble. Having a cellphone in a false name is like ordering a pizza with a false name... no big deal. But I don't mess with banking under federal protection, with fraud.
Any other ideas that are easy to do and still allow a person to have a pretty normal existence in society?
Unlicenced, unregistered, contract-free rental arrangement and do not recieve mail at this address.... Check.
Driver's license, vehicle registrations, and tax info all going to a P.O. box in a remote town I only visit a couple times a year.... Check.
I'm curious about how to dissappear. How about handling money transactions that must be non-cash? internet purchases and the like? Remember, I prefer not to have a bank account in my name, and a bank account NOT in my name would be fraudulent in ways that can get a person in trouble. Having a cellphone in a false name is like ordering a pizza with a false name... no big deal. But I don't mess with banking under federal protection, with fraud.
Any other ideas that are easy to do and still allow a person to have a pretty normal existence in society?
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Re: How to Disappear
Tue, March 18, 2008 - 10:26 PMIt's easy Thousand. Just go get a picture ID with the name Rusty Shackleford and go from there. lol
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Re: How to Disappear
Tue, March 18, 2008 - 10:36 PMDont have a bank account at all. Cash paycheck's at the bank they come from. No rental lease or utilities in your name. Use a social security # from a dead guy and a fake picture ID. But there's a camera staring you in the face everywhere you go and computer's that can do a picture match in just a few second's. How would you disapear from that? Grow a beard maybe?
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Thu, March 20, 2008 - 1:54 PMPrepaid credit cards, available at check cashing stores . . .
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Thu, March 20, 2008 - 2:21 PMas far as non-cash transactions go, you can get one of those pre-paid credit cards. you put like $200 or however amount on a visa and use it basically like you would a pre-paid phone card. I don't know all the details because I haven't used them, but I've been interested.
question: how the hell do you find employment? I mean, you need to receive income and you then need to declare that income and pay taxes on it. and how do you avoid late fees and serious fuck ups with vehicle renewals and such needed if you only get your mail a few times a year? I recently got something just a few days late that has caused serious hell on my account. -
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Thu, March 20, 2008 - 2:23 PMand how does one have utilities without giving their name?
I'd like to know how this stuff works. I've always thought it would be good to know how to get additional identification papers, but the problem there is anyone does this isn't someone you'd likely want to know in the day to day. if you get my drift.
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Thu, March 20, 2008 - 3:01 PMThe most tragic part of having 40+ years of liberal democrats in power is that we are no longer citizens of a republic(please note the lower case r). A representative democracy where the individual is the supreme master of his own fate and his (pardon the masculine gender usage but I am a man) rights supercede those of society. In the early 20th century and before if you wanted to make a fresh start you just had to pack up and vote with your feet and move to a different area were no one knew you. That is one reason the West coast is as populated as it is. It is also why it is considered bad manners to ask someone who lives in Alaska about their past. Alaska is one of the few places left were it is like that. All technology and modern civilization make your ability to reinvent yourself nearly impossible in anything but a metaphoric way, more' the pity -
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Re: How to Disappear
Thu, March 20, 2008 - 4:19 PMThe utilities in my arrangement, at least, are handled and in the name of the registered premise owner. I've a deal worked out where we just include my utility into the rent. He trusts me.
This is important to me, strangers trusting each other. There's not enough of that anymore, but it IS there... few and far between, I seek them out. And I am very careful not to burn them or give them any reason not to trust the next guy to come along when I'm moved on.
I'm looking into getting a prepaid atm style card, I guess walmart is doing that now? I'm looking around for someone who'll let me put money on a damn card and spend it, WITHOUT the need for I.D. linked to the account. Sorta like a gift card you might get for a birthday. I oughta just be able to put cash on a card account that is not linked to anyone. Pay some sort of monthly or usage fee, and use the card for online transactions etc. Anyone is welcome to let me know if you've found a place that does this sorta thing.
I'm not to the point where I want to get into the whole 'clean slate' new I.D. and SSN and all that... I'm not trying to TRULY disappear, I just want to be as hard to find as I can manage without having to do anything TOO nutty. Nobody's actively looking for me, I don't actively need to hide... I just need to be hard enough to track down that nobody's gonna bother as long as I don't kill anyone or worse yet.... damage any government property on accident. -
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Thu, March 20, 2008 - 6:59 PMJust walk into your local dmv and say "hi, my name is dale gribble and I need a state ID" lol If that doesnt work, try "Rusty shackleford. -
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Thu, March 20, 2008 - 7:48 PMall my discount club cards are in rusty shackleford's name.. so is my cellphone. I would imagine Rusty shackleford probably has several cell phone numbers, and probably has pizza delivered to a thousand houses a night, nationwide. hehehe -
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Re: How to Disappear
Fri, March 21, 2008 - 2:57 PMI think I'll just go with McLovin.
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Sun, March 23, 2008 - 7:24 AMnixon ,raygun, bush 1 and bush 2 are liberal democrats ? -
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Wed, April 9, 2008 - 2:13 PMI was referring to the Senate and House keiter -
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Wed, April 9, 2008 - 2:28 PMThe house too? You mean Gingrich was a democrat??? Wait... We are not talking about the USA, are we?
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Re: How to Disappear
Sun, March 30, 2008 - 1:40 PMYou can get prepaid visa cards at WalMart. You fill 'em up, use 'em, and throw 'em away. Several others are offering similar cards.
Or, you could go native and go hang with Urban Scout. You want to know where he is? Ask a bear. -
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Sun, March 30, 2008 - 3:28 PMhm.... I think I'm going to check out those walmart prepaid cards. If they don't need I.D. and can just be loaded up with cash, it sounds like that would be the perfect ticket.
And I really don't see why they'd need I.D., just treat it like a take-anywhere gift card. -
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Sun, March 30, 2008 - 3:30 PMA cashless society--that's what's going to screw us as far as anonymity.
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Sun, March 30, 2008 - 3:32 PMI use cash as much as possible. I hate the Visa commercials that make people feel bad about using cash. Also those prepaid cards require a service charge of about 5% I think. -
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Sun, March 30, 2008 - 3:36 PM5% charge.. weak....
Well, My phone is pre-paid cash account... they didn't check I.D., I guess I really look like a 'rusty shackleford'
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Mon, March 31, 2008 - 1:52 PMWith advances in biometrics these days they know who you are the moment you step into Wal-Mart...much less the airport. If you are trying to disappear there are some serious things you need to consider...and really the only reason to disappear is if your life depends on it. Have you seen the Bourne Identity, Supremecy, or Ultimatum..they illustrate just what our gov is capable of..you may think that is only in the movies but programs like (e c h e l o n) do exist :(
Check out theindependentamerican.freeyellow.com/therm.html for info on thermal imaging and how to escape radar if they are on your tail. -
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Mon, March 31, 2008 - 7:31 PMoh, if you're truly trying to disappear, I agree... And it would seem prudent to anyone anticipating such a possibility at all concievable to them, they would be much better off to get state I.D. cards and passports, etc... alternate identity.
I'm not Jason Bourne though. Nobody's out to get me, at least I can't imagine why they would be at the moment. I just don't like the idea of all my information being out there and easily trackable... for ANY reason. Long-lost girlfriend wants to find me, collections agency wants to harass me, or I forget to pay a parking ticket and get a bench warrant... I want it to be enough of a hassle to track me down, that I will at least hear an advance notice from a friend or relative before someone I don't want to see comes knocking at my door. -
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Sat, April 5, 2008 - 11:20 PMYou can always dissapear all Richard Kimble like and take shit cash jobs, casual labor, fruit picking with wets, and travel the country off the grid. Don't stay anywhere long enough for your soc to come back. No internet except the public library and then you have to worry because they have DVRs recoring.
When the world ends you'll want to make sure you stay off the grid and keep your shades drawn at night. Me and my pirate army will be looking for those windows at night when we hunt. You'll do well to sleep in a vault. That panic room would be ass mad cool. No one would fuck with you at night. Never have to worry about waking up with your throat slit. -
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Sat, April 5, 2008 - 11:41 PMwhy do you assume that everybody is going to sleep at night but you? I'll leave the light on for you. -
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Mon, April 7, 2008 - 3:19 PMIf I had to guess, without TV all you have to do after it gets dark is fuck n sleep. On camping trips I only stay up late if we're partying.
Seems to me that Mitch would be too busy with his harem of crack ho's to go out looking for livestock to molest. From everything he has said he sould be pretty busy bowling up and poning bitches all day long. When he did get to my house he'd be all worn out like a raison.
How can you tell when Mitch has been to your house? The trash can is knocked over and your horse is pregnant! -
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Tue, April 8, 2008 - 8:27 PMI call a preemptive strike on Mitch. We can't wait around for the world to end. C'mon, it's the republican thing to do! (Just ask George)
Oh and Mitch, if I am wrong about you, well...hind sight is 20/20. My bad! LOL
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Wed, April 9, 2008 - 11:49 AMLMFAO...haha that's funny..preemptive strike! Hey I think some newspaper said that he had WMD.. must be true! -
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Fri, April 11, 2008 - 3:37 PMHe can have the wife but leave tthe Horses alone -
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Fri, April 11, 2008 - 6:36 PMHey guys, I got this deposit check FINALLY from my old apartment.... issued from a small local bank in washington, I'm in Utah. I'm staying away from banks, how the hell do I cash this worthless piece of paper without going to a 'check cashing store' that wants to run a credit check on all my personal info, addresses, and info of refferences etc? I took one look at all that stuff they wanted from me and walked out. Wallyworld won't cash it because it's not govt issued or a payroll check.
Where does a guy take his bank-issued monopoly money I.O.U.'s so that he can exchange them for federal reserve-issued monopoly money I.O.U.'s without sacrificing what little privacy he has?
it's only one-twenty-five.....on the one hand I almost want to wipe my ass with it and forget the hassle...but on the other hand, an extra 125 is always nice?.... I hate the paper trail of our modern electronic economy. It's absolutely abhorrent to anyone who is awakened to the sense of privacy that every good american used to enjoy before social security numbers. -
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Fri, April 11, 2008 - 10:22 PMGet to know the guy at the 7-11. Then fill up your car with gas and cash the check to pay for it. -
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Sat, April 12, 2008 - 7:25 PMwill they really do that, Brent?!!!
Somebody second on this one, it sounds promising! can I con em into accepting the check if I tell em it's my only way to pay for the gas? (I'm sure it's a good check as it came from my apartment manager's financial company) -
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Sat, April 12, 2008 - 7:42 PMI have an old buddy that manages a conveinent store up in town and if I have a check for around 150, he'll cash it. They don't have a check cashing policy or anything but cash it if they know you type deal. So if you have any old friend's in utah that work a store or something, go ask them about it.
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Sat, April 12, 2008 - 7:46 PMI go to bed early when I'm camping too. In an eow situation I doubt I could sleep unless a person I trust was standing guard. Kinda like the bear encounter I had in the white mountain's. I didnt sleep all night or the next day.
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My opinion?
Tue, April 29, 2008 - 9:49 AMunless you choose, and it is a choice, to submit to what TPTB tell you, you have to do, you can disapear easily. I once in my youth took off and dropped out. I parked my car left the keys in it and walked away. I hitched to another part of the country. Worked cash jobs. Lived outside the mainstream ( and literally out of doors ) for a couple of years. I stayed well fed, and healthy. I did use my SS for food stamps a couple of times, so in all honesty if 'they" had wanted to find me they could. But think about this. It cost even with databases a tremendous amount of money to search for you. At least still that is becoming less and less of a point. Unless your a mass murderer or something they don't really care where you are or what your doing. That also could change but for now it's true. Think about it...there aren't really masses of Americans looking to drop below radar...we're a country of sheep.
