invester survivalist

topic posted Sun, March 30, 2008 - 12:03 AM by  offlineBrent
Since the dollar value has plunged downward, all the money type rich folk's, like thor, are not investing in i-pods and computer's right now. They've been investing in thing's like food and farming. fertilizer companies and any product that has to do with farming or groceries in general. If you would have bought pot ash (fertilizer, not the hippy dope) a couple of month's ago you would have doubled your money by now. Not to mention oil. I think it could be a sign of hard time's the way people are trying to secure their money in the thing's we need the most and not the blackberry companies and nike tennis shoe's. I've even heard there's been alot of investing in ammo.

I'm no stock market wizard but I was wondering what you guy's thought about it.

posted by:
Brent
Missouri
  • Re: invester survivalist

    Sun, March 30, 2008 - 1:37 PM
    It would make sense to invest in things people will always need versus luxaries with the gloom'n doom forcast. My family always invested in guns and land. Both keep going up.

    Whatever happened to Mitch? Did the fashion police finally catch up to him? I bet he's investing in Ky jelly for his daddy.
  • Re: invester survivalist

    Sun, March 30, 2008 - 1:45 PM
    Howdy Brent. Good question... I suggest that you spread your $ eggs among several different investment baskets. Commodities are big right now. Metals, mining companies, energy companies, to name a few. World (ie: Chinese) demand is high for these items, and also the price of oil is steadily increasing, probably because of the Peak Oil phenomenon. Then there are precious metals (primarily silver and gold), which can be bought online as shares, or purchased in the form of tangible bullion/coins (online or at your local coin store). Silver and gold have skyrocketed in price/value in the last few years, and will probably continue to do so. You can also invest in foreign currencies via funds like the MERKX fund. Every time the dollar falls in value, the MERKX fund makes money. Precious metals and foreign currencies are a way of hedging your investments against the further decline of the US dollar. Personally, I think that buying tangibles such as survival food stores and ammunition is also a viable form of investing and hedging. And, by stocking up on usable tangibles (TP, food, ammo, soap, ziplock bags, etc. -- stuff that you will always need and use) now, you avoid inflation later.

    Have you heard of Stephen Leeb? He writes a subscription newsletter called The Complete Investor that I find very useful. Leeb has a proven track record in terms of spotting economic trends before they occur, and in giving valuable investment advice on how to traverse them. If you look for a deal, you can probably subscribe to the Complete Investor for $39 a year, and get 2 free books also as part of the package. That is what I just did when I renewed my subscription. I urge you to google him and read what people have to say about him, as I believe that he is the real deal.

    I hope this is useful advice. I've been interested in survival investing for about 3 years now and have settled on the investment strategy I've listed above.
  • Re: invester survivalist

    Mon, March 31, 2008 - 2:02 PM
    LOL Adam! ... actually KY might be worth investing in haha :) people will always need/want lube.

    You all are on the right path..investing in stuff like toilet paper is always a good idea..unless we figure out something better to wipe our asses with. My family also invests in guns/ammo and land...it's only going up from here..esp with inflation. If you don't need it now you will later..otherwise you can sell/trade it for something you can use. My theory is I'd rather be left holding a bunch of stuff I can use instead of a bunch of dollars (paper) that aren't worth anything.
    • Re: invester survivalist

      Mon, March 31, 2008 - 7:24 PM
      I would think any farmer would do well to pick up some of those old horse-drawn implements for threshing, tilling, ploughing, planting, etc... The kind of thing you see rotting out in front of the landscaping of an old house converted to an antique shop... Get some of those old implements and knock the rust off, get em in running condition and grease the hell out of all the moving parts. Be the only farmer still able to work his acreage efficiently and productively while everyone else is shoving individual corn seeds into the ground with their sore little fingers.
  • Re: invester survivalist

    Tue, April 1, 2008 - 9:28 AM
    If you plan to invest in intangible goods (stocks, bonds, CDs, etc.), you'd probably be best off doing it through a local credit union, that way the money stays mostly within your own community (some will give you the option of investing locally only, but you usually have to ask). Credit unions also offer higher interest rates on basic accounts like checking and savings, often double the rates of commercial banks. You can also join local investor's clubs and pool your money with like-minded others for larger returns.
  • Re: invester survivalist

    Tue, April 1, 2008 - 9:58 PM
    Oh yeah, land. Land land land land land. Land has intrinsic (real) value. Invest in it. Specially now, when the value of the US dollar is falling. It's a way of preserving wealth in inflationary times...and I do think we're headed into an inflationary era. I just bought a piece of land partly as a bugout retreat but also partly because it's a load off my mind to not have the money any more. The land is worth what I paid for it, and what I paid for it wasn't much. The way I see it, it's a winning proposition.
    • Re: invester survivalist

      Fri, April 4, 2008 - 9:25 PM
      They dont make land anymore. So you cant go wrong buying that.
      • Re: invester survivalist

        Sat, April 5, 2008 - 11:05 PM
        Buy guns n ammo n vaseline, that's what i do. With guns I casn build an army and plunder the landscape like land pirates. I'm down south now and all my kinfolk is gettin outta prison. well roll like gangsters when the world ends.

        We'll be lazy, so any real resistance will make us look elsewhere. There will be dozens of less prepared folks for a pirate army. We add to our ranks every time we sweep through town and empty the jail. *

        What are you investing in now?





        *all statements and claims by mitch are fictional and representational of a generic character likely to be faced in an EOW scenario. no actual serial killers were used in the making of this thread,
        • Re: invester survivalist

          Sun, April 6, 2008 - 9:53 AM
          Thanks for the disclaimer, Mitch.
          There would probably be a bounty placed on you pretty quickly, so you should probably choose your mates with *some* care.

          If there were no, or few, cops, it would be interesting to see how or if the neighbors/people would organize themselves.
          • Re: invester survivalist

            Sun, April 6, 2008 - 10:28 AM
            It was on the new's a couple of day's ago about a guy that threatened some people over the internet and someone turned him in to the fbi and they actually raided his his house and found an arsenal of gun's. He told them he had bought them for an investment. Maybe that's what mitch's disclaimer is about at the bottom.
            • Re: invester survivalist

              Fri, April 11, 2008 - 6:19 PM
              Did you see a blurb in the news last week they busted a guy in Illinois for having 12,000 rounds of ammo.

              Precious metals is a good investment, I think building materials and the like would be good, I am always building something around this place.

              I live in a Mennonite/Amish community and old horse drawn farm equipnt ain,t cheap around here.
              • Re: invester survivalist

                Fri, April 11, 2008 - 7:27 PM
                Out here in the west, that horse-drawn stuff is so common it's used as lawn decorations... Most of it in a condition that would just take some grease and minor repairs to get em serviceable, although they're a long way from looking new. What's not in people's lawns is sitting out in the sunny dry fields, a lot of farmers would give em away just to get em off their property. Maybe a hundred bucks to ensure there were no seller's remorse.
              • Re: invester survivalist

                Fri, April 11, 2008 - 9:23 PM
                Is it against the law to have 12,000 round's of ammo? All the antique farm equipment around here used for lawn decoration is being stolen and sold for scrap. 90 dollar's a ton is what I hear scrap metal is being sold for.
                • Re: invester survivalist

                  Sat, April 12, 2008 - 12:53 PM
                  i just got a 5 gram suisse ingot in the mail isnt she pretty!

                  allready made 20 bux on my investment hehehe and i can buy goods in a depression!

                  back 2 ebay for more~!
                • Re: invester survivalist

                  Sat, April 12, 2008 - 1:50 PM
                  I didn,t think it was, no one knows anymore with the Patriot Act in place. With that thing I think Bush just makes it up as he goes along
  • Re: invester survivalist

    Thu, April 24, 2008 - 9:48 PM
    Credit cards are a tool that can be used to one's financial advantage. That statement probably sounds an alarm bell for a lot of people, but hear me out. I used to work with a woman who told me that she bought a car for $8,000 in the early 90s. She paid for it with 0% credit cards and kept flipping the balances onto new 0% credit cards every year, and she paid the car off in 4 years without ever paying 1 cent of interest. I protested that this is bad for your credit rating, but she told me it's not. Someone out there will insist it is, but it isn't. And if it IS very slightly bad for your credit rating, it's nothing you can't fix in a year. I finally got to seeing my coworker's way of thinking, and bought this very laptop I'm writing on with a 0% credit card. I flipped the balance several times and paid $50 to $100 every month, and paid it off in 2 years without ever paying any interest. Did it adversely affect my credit rating? If so, not by much. I was granted an unsecured personal loan by a bank 6 months ago, without any hitches. I have excellent credit.

    Another more obvious way to use credit cards to your advantage is to gather points with your purchases, and then pay the balances off completely every month.

    Or, make a major purchase on one card and get the points, then transfer that large balance onto a 0% card.

    When applying for a 0% card, make sure there is no balance transfer fee (no fees period) and also make sure that the annual percentage rate is decent once the 0% offer ends.

    I am not advocating anything illegal here. I am advocating that you pay your minimum balances promptly and on time every month, and that you pay off any interest-bearing balances immediately. But if you are skillful in how you use credit cards, they can benefit you financially.

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