Hi folks! I think we're in for a rough ride for at least the next year or two, with regards to the current worldwide food/oil crunch. Honestly, it seems like things are getting bad quickly for much of the world, and may get worse. To that end, I thought maybe we could start a discussion/list of general advice/resource listings/links to help each other prepare. I will start with this -

Here are 2 links to free downloadable books:

numerous medical books available at Hesperian: www.hesperian.org/publicati...wnload.php

a wide variety of military manuals available on the downloads page at: pamedia.com/phpNuke/index.php

Some good stuff here!
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Horse
SF Bay Area
  • I agree, things seem to be wrapping up to a crescendo at an alarming rate.... all these seemingly unrelated -and hitherto just shadows, or remote risks- have found a way to all tie in together, I can see the next two years getting pretty rough for much of the world.

    I really think we're seeing the creating phases of history unfold, things we'll look back on when our children ask us how 'the greater depression' started, or why there was a WWIII
    • It feels that way, doesn't it? Like we've entered a new era, where we can no longer shield ourselves from the excesses of the Industrial Age (too many people, too few resources, supply chains stretched too thin). To that end, I am trying to help a friend of mine (who is cash-poor but a born survivor), get prepared for the near future in terms of survival preps. He's got a wife and 3 kids and his wife is freaking out about the state of the world, and I'm trying to help get him (and his wife) in a can-do state of mind. They're both fighters and survivors, so I know they can and will persevere. If they turn that fear around into fighting/prep energy, nothing's going to get in their way.

      On my own front, I'm cleaning house right now to get rid of the old clothes and books and crap that I don't use any more. I've filled my kitchen cabinets with food in the last month. Once a week or so I go to the gigantic Longs or the Grocery Outlet near my house and buy a dozen cans of bargain rate backup food. It adds up, and it's very inexpensive. A few months ago I bought a year's worth of toiletries, and several cases of TP. Again, not very expensive. I've been fattening Shadow, my cat, all winter, and she's part of my backup plan. If I skimp, and add dandelion greens, I could get several meals out of her :-) (who am I fooling? I'd chop my own fingers off and feed them to her rather than eat her). Anyway, I also have some tomatoes and basic veggies planted on the patio out front. And, I bought a parcel of land in the mountains recently, and I want to start getting some friends up there so we can bug out together if TSHTF.

      I'm very interested in preparations others are making, or links to free information, or book/article recommendations, or advice, etc.
      • I was going to cut my garden in half this year then changed my mind and then planted extra corn too. Think I might double my chicken population and maybe buy a couple of milk goat's. If cattle price's get sky high I might just sell out and use the money for a top notch fall out shelter. People will shoot and steal the cow's anyway if the balloon goes up. So I may stick with animal's I can keep hid in the barn so I only have one area to protect instead of trying to police the entire place. I've put a hog back for 'Thousand till I can build a crate to ship it to him. lol

        I don't care if the oil dries up tomarrow. I've alway's wanted one of those fancy little amish buggies. I'm sure my horses would think I was nut's if I hitched them up to it.
  • I always have a lot of food in storage, but I'm definitely shifting my grocery budget and planning to include even more staple purchases (like the five medium-sized bottles of olive oil I found in my local store's bargain bin for $1 each and the dozen tetra paks of chicken broth, also $1). Our household has gone practically vegetarian except for what's already canned and in the freezer because the price of meat has shot up around here - They wanted $8 for a pound of hamburger the last time I was at the store. I'm going to make a bulk purchase of TVP soon so that we can at least pretend there's something meat-like in our meals and I'm getting my trout license soon so that we can go fishing.

    Other than that, I keep on scanning store flyers for deals, buying in bulk, and making/putting up as much of my own food as I can manage at home. Luckily, the garden is coming up really well so far this year; I just put more onions in tonight with the strawberries and might plant lettuce with the strawberries in the other planter. Planning to plant more millet this year since last year's experiment went so well. I should be able to plant enough to harvest a few meals' worth with successive plantings.

    Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that with the rise in cost of staple foods, the price of processed foods has gone down a bit. "Sorry, you can't afford flour, but here's some sodium-laden ramen noodles and a soda." Bleh.
    • So glad the garden is going in...

      Fri, April 25, 2008 - 5:19 AM
      Yes. I have noticed that about the good food going up and the crap is cheaper. We have been stocking up on staples too. I try to eat organic but it is getting out of sight price-wise.
      • Re: So glad the garden is going in...

        Fri, April 25, 2008 - 6:59 AM
        I have a good friend who works in several of the sale barns in this area and he was telling me the price of cows is down. Them little black Amish buggies are pretty pricey, about $5000. You can get good buggies less than that. If you you have a hay wagon you can turn that it to a real good wagon, just add a tongue and a double tree and something to sit on and your good to go.

        We just keep adding to our stocked foods, I try to stay away from those freeze dried,"survival foods" and buy everything in bulk.
        • Re: So glad the garden is going in...

          Fri, April 25, 2008 - 8:18 AM
          I could probably build a old doctor buggy, like the Doc on little house on the prairie had. Maybe a buck board wagon. It's funny how modern day flatbed semi trailer's look like buck board wagon's. Most car's and even train's are built with the same width wheel base as wagon's because when they started building car's, they built them to drive in the wagon rut's already in the road.
          • Re: So glad the garden is going in...

            Fri, April 25, 2008 - 10:45 AM
            Not hard to build a buggy, I bought mine ready made, its got motorcycle tires on it though, they are stronger than bicycle tires. The guy who leases my pasture just stopped by and he told me bred cows are sellin for 400 to 500 dollars. I don't raise cows so I don't really know the market, he says thats down from 900 to a 1000. You know more about the cattle market than I do.
  • I'm getting my yearly bonus next week and about half is going to a major restocking of the larder. Already have 2 50 pound bags of rice and another 100lbs of beans, but am going to stock up on canned goods, dried beans and peas, TVP and gluten products, and some winter wheat. Have not found that locally yet but am going to hit up the feed stores. Also going to stock up on laying pellets and get even more into the ground this weekend.

    Other half of the bonus is going into a 6 foot block wall and steel gate across the front of the house. I am making provisions on the wall top so I can add some nifty panels later if I want to go to 8 feet.

    I am not to worried about food shortages in the US in the near future, but some price protection will be nice I'm glad I am not in Asia , Africa, or South/central America though. It's not going to be pretty in many of those places...

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