Robot quadrupeds, capable of fully autonomous terrain navigation while carrying a 350 lbs payload of weapons and armor:
www.youtube.com/watch
Robot avians, capable of hours of sustained flight, and carrying multiple air-to-surface and air-to-air short range rockets:
www.youtube.com/watch
Track-mounted ground based machine gun toting robots, capable of covering miles of flat urban terrain in a hurry
www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/is...htm
Remember, it's just a short-leap of adding two-plus-two, to outfit these buggers with facial recognizers like we use in surveillance systems... A short leap of logic to wrap them in lightweight nanotube carbon-fiber laminate that would stop a .44 mag point-blank. A couple advances in alternate energy away from outfitting them with methane fuel cells to keep them whisper-silent, emission-free, and mobile for months on end... We have digital olfactory sensors that put a bloodhound to shame... Infrared cameras. night-vision. Hearing amplifiers. seismic sensors in the feet. Sonar. Radar.
And don't forget and NEVER underestimate the capability of perfect, synchronized hive-mind logic, all units acting in concert and delivering real-time communication to each other. If one sees you, they have instantly all seen you and mapped your position and heading on their GPS.
This is more of a 'for fun' posting. I would'nt go so far off the fringe as to seriously entertain the idea of hundreds of 'big dog' drones patrolling the forests, backed by predator air-support while child-sized miniature track-vehicles patrol the streets of my hometown mounted with belt-fed SAWs (or low-energy, silent, lightweight compressed laser pulse emitters) and motion-tracking infrared cameras.
I mean, it's not like all the electronics for this crap comes from China or anything. And I'm sure American military is the only one who has thought of engineering or employing anything even REMOTELY autonomous and robotic for the purpose of killing other human beings.
It's so creepy that it's kinda fun to chew on the idea for a while. Mull it over during breakfast tomorrow.
www.youtube.com/watch
Robot avians, capable of hours of sustained flight, and carrying multiple air-to-surface and air-to-air short range rockets:
www.youtube.com/watch
Track-mounted ground based machine gun toting robots, capable of covering miles of flat urban terrain in a hurry
www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/is...htm
Remember, it's just a short-leap of adding two-plus-two, to outfit these buggers with facial recognizers like we use in surveillance systems... A short leap of logic to wrap them in lightweight nanotube carbon-fiber laminate that would stop a .44 mag point-blank. A couple advances in alternate energy away from outfitting them with methane fuel cells to keep them whisper-silent, emission-free, and mobile for months on end... We have digital olfactory sensors that put a bloodhound to shame... Infrared cameras. night-vision. Hearing amplifiers. seismic sensors in the feet. Sonar. Radar.
And don't forget and NEVER underestimate the capability of perfect, synchronized hive-mind logic, all units acting in concert and delivering real-time communication to each other. If one sees you, they have instantly all seen you and mapped your position and heading on their GPS.
This is more of a 'for fun' posting. I would'nt go so far off the fringe as to seriously entertain the idea of hundreds of 'big dog' drones patrolling the forests, backed by predator air-support while child-sized miniature track-vehicles patrol the streets of my hometown mounted with belt-fed SAWs (or low-energy, silent, lightweight compressed laser pulse emitters) and motion-tracking infrared cameras.
I mean, it's not like all the electronics for this crap comes from China or anything. And I'm sure American military is the only one who has thought of engineering or employing anything even REMOTELY autonomous and robotic for the purpose of killing other human beings.
It's so creepy that it's kinda fun to chew on the idea for a while. Mull it over during breakfast tomorrow.
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Re: With freakin' lasers on their heads!!!
Sat, April 12, 2008 - 9:43 PMOH YEA!!
I forgot about Japan's loveable little child-sized toy, ASIMO!
www.ecopolis.org/wp-conten...simo-3.jpg
I saw this little dude in person at a live technology presentation. I waved at him. He noticed me in the crowd, looked at me with his creepy little binocular camera vision, raised his hand, and waved back. He's capable of fuzzy logic. You tell him to order a pizza for you, he asks you what brand. you tell him, he connects to the WWW in his head, places an order over his internal cellular connection, (you can't hear him talk to the person on the line, but he will sound somewhat like a recorded message. He has every word in the dictionary in his head, connected to a vox value, a child voice sample recording for each word...sounds like a laptop that reads out loud, all broken-up like with wrong voice fluctuations) Then, out-loud, he'll tell you when and where the pizza will be ready.
I noticed he has five fingers as well, and is perfectly capable of pulling a trigger. Loveable, cute, four-foot-six little ASIMO... the earlier models were man-sized, they shrunk him down and gave him a child's physical proportions to soften up the public image.
Here's a sneak preview of the next prototype:
www.solarnavigator.net/images...bot.jpg
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Sat, April 12, 2008 - 10:51 PMThis is the kind of thread I'm talking about. So how do we outwit that kind of technology? Where ya at dave? does my old lynard skynard tape protect from this kind of stuff? Hiding under a fibre glassed blanket? Wrap my glorious naked body in tin-foil? sacrifice our lives to make sure John Conner lives? Hide in a hole like a gopher? Put a fish finder in a jar of water to jam their radar. Come on ya'll, kick out the idea's. -
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Re: With freakin' lasers on their heads!!!
Sun, April 13, 2008 - 8:01 AMelecto-magnetic pulses is all I can think of right now.
However there is a big gap between current technology and autonomous AI. As it stands if a machine can kill it HAS TO be controlled by a person.That is thecurrent and always to date protocol. Killing machines scare Generals and chief of staffs more than they scare the general public. They want 110% assurance it can't think for itself. -
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Re: With freakin' lasers on their heads!!!
Sun, April 13, 2008 - 8:05 AMOh here is one more for you
www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm
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Sun, April 13, 2008 - 11:58 AM" there is a big gap between current technology and autonomous AI"
Not as big as you might think.... Any kid who plays computer games knows that their opponent, a computer-based A.I. is completely capable of recognizing a target, rudimentary combat strategy, and deadly precision in calculating trajectories...as in, hitting the pilot of a jet flying by, with a single shot from a rifle.... It's all mathematical and tracking.
Just because we have the 'trigger' on the predator drones and other termination drones, set remotely, and must be pressed by a human hand.... Doesn't mean you can't install a program in six hours on one of those things, that tells it to pull it's own trigger upon confirmation of movement and a facial-recognition match (or just human-form recognition if it is under genocial orders, deployed over foreign soil)
Trust me, if we can program ASIMO to recognize my facial expression, turn to me, and wave his hand at me, we can just as easily program him to pull a trigger at me instead of wave his hand..... He's just a machine, a toaster. He will do exactly as he is programmed, there is not conscience and no realization of action or consequence...it's just a series of mathematical functions.
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Re: With freakin' lasers on their heads!!!
Sun, April 13, 2008 - 8:20 AMThose robot quadrupeds
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Sun, April 13, 2008 - 8:55 AMits not a runaway AI that worries me its the person that gives the pilots orders that does, what millionaire doesnt have a few lamborginis sitting in a garage?
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Sun, April 13, 2008 - 9:24 AMGOPHERS!!!!!!!!!
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Sun, April 13, 2008 - 9:38 AMWhen I was in college they were working on a robot based on a spiders super structure and motor skills. If you think a quadraped freaks you imagaine a 20 foot diameter mechanical spider, armor plated, with a myriad of weapons and you on its hit list.
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Re: With freakin' lasers on their heads!!!
Sun, April 13, 2008 - 9:58 AMWhen I was in college they were working on a robot based on a spiders super structure and motor skills. If a quadraped robot freaks you out, how do you feel about a 20' diameter spider that's armor plated and has a myriad of weapons and you on it's to do list? Oh and by the way one of those myriads of weapons is thousands of 3" diameter spiderbots with neurotoxin injectors to swarm any opposing force.
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Re: With freakin' lasers on their heads!!!
Sun, April 13, 2008 - 9:43 AMI've heard infra-red doesnt pass through glass or water. I've also heard it doesnt pass through those cheap survival blanket's but I don't think I beleive that. -
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Sun, April 13, 2008 - 7:10 PMI think read somewhere that the Navy already has some prototypesof those spider thingies. And a cruise missile can almost ask your name before it explodes.
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Re: With freakin' lasers on their heads!!!
Mon, April 14, 2008 - 11:01 AMOk, now THAT"S cool.
Guys in my building are designing the next predator, btw, It's quieter and has a "hover mode"... Can't tell you any more about that. They also built an autonomous RPV that flew from Vandenburg AFB to The big Island of Hawaii last year on 5 gallons of fuel. and succesfully landed! -
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Re: With freakin' lasers on their heads!!!
Mon, April 14, 2008 - 11:16 AMOne of my duty stations when I was in the Navy was Naval Weapons Center China Lake, CA near Ridgecrest. Some of the stuff I saw out there(not able to discuss) would blow your mind. The amount of money our government spends figuring out new and improved ways to kill our fellow human beings, is amazing.
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Mon, April 14, 2008 - 6:09 PMtop secret stuff is so annoying lol.
My dad used to work on some electronics system.... an active radar jammer for apaches, supposedly it throws your signature off to the side quite a distance.... that was back in the 80's...I'm sure radar signature is completely obsolete in today's stealth world. -
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Mon, April 14, 2008 - 6:10 PMoh haha I guess my point with that was that at the time it was super top-secret. It's really kinda creepy how locked-down they can make your life when you're working on projects like that.
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